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On buying big cars

By Umbra Fisk
25 Aug 2008
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question Dear Umbra,

I'm in need of a new car. I'd love to get a Prius, but I often need more passenger seats than the Prius has. What is the most environmentally friendly and responsible choice for a driver who needs a larger car? It seems like the bigger hybrids (i.e., the Toyota Highlander) are expensive and don't get very impressive gas mileage compared to the Prius. Are there any industry plans to make SUVs that get more miles per gallon? What do I do in the meantime? Where is the minivan hybrid for us carpooling moms?

Julie E.
Los Angeles, Calif.

answer Dearest Julie,

This has been a perennial question for the Gristies, and I wish the automakers knew what they were missing. You and I both know that a high-mileage, high-capacity, affordable car would sell like -- well, like organic milk. Eco-moms are a huge market. Americans are clamoring for a comfy seven-seat vehicle that gets 40 mpg -- and has the safety record of a minivan instead of a death-taunting SUV.

Hybrid minivan
The Toyota Estima. Sorry, you can't have one.
Such a vehicle does exist -- in Japan. Toyota makes a hybrid minivan called the Estima that gets 35-plus mpg. The Estima -- and a hybrid version of the Toyota Sienna minivan -- have been eagerly awaited in the U.S. but ne'er seen. Last spring, the Union of Concerned Scientists launched a petition to bring a Toyota hybrid minivan here, and nearly 18,000 people reportedly signed it. Still we wait. According to the UCS, one reason Toyota (and perhaps other car manufacturers) delay bringing such hot items to the U.S. is the fear that doing so will hurt the sales of their other, less eco-friendly models. So your minivan, Julie, is still in Japan.

The UCS Hybrid Car Center has a nice little timeline about the anticipated release dates of all future hybrids, and the list does include some retooled SUVs, which will get more miles to the gallon than the current crop. In the meantime, you're right: The Prius smacks down every competitor but the Honda Civic hybrid. The Prius is estimated to get gas mileage in the mid-40s. Miles per gallon for midsized hybrids hovers in the high 20s or low 30s, falls to the mid-20s for the hybrid (and pricey) Highlander, and drops to the (ouch) teens for non-hybrid minivans.

Greenercars.org offers a 2008 Best Vehicles by Class listing, and that's where I would start car shopping if I were you. Everyone has different auto preferences, and while I can give you the standard briefing on buying the smallest car possible that meets your needs, etc., it sounds like you've already thought through all those steps. Now you just need to build a list of potential cars in the desired size range and go over all the emissions, mileage, and performance details. Start at Greenercars. Then follow up on sites such as Consumer Reports (if you have an account there), Car Talk (I just used their Auto Advisor on your behalf), the Union of Concerned Scientists' Hybridcenter, and the federal government. That's right, our federal government -- at fueleconomy.gov -- is standing by to let you know the air pollution score, the annual petroleum consumption, the cost of a fill-up, and the new mpg score of your cars of choice.

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All that said, standard-issue minivans remain pretty poor on the mileage front. There's a higher-mileage SUV to consider: The Ford Escape hybrid apparently gets about 32 mpg, but it's basically a five-seater, and I don't know if that's enough capacity for you. I kinda think the Highlander hybrid may be the answer if you regularly need lots of room. But you're the only one who can figure out how to wrap your bank account, space requirements, and environmentalism into one less-than-perfect car. It might be time to consider a used Highlander or maybe even a regular minivan (for that eco-friendly carpooling you're doing). We can all hope that in another five years there will be an easier answer to this question.

Avoidantly,
Umbra



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Vans

The Mazda5 is a good alternative for the minivan set - six seats and gas mileage 50% better than a full-size van; we consistently average 30 MPG with ours.

I think hybrids are a hideous con - the carbon footprint left by the much more complex manufacturing process can never be counterbalanced by any fuel savings, not to mention the heavy metals in those hundreds of thousands of enormous battery packs that are about to start reaching the end of their useful lives.    

Hybrids...

It is also imprtant to realize how much plastic is involved in a New vehicle.   The Prius is no exception and is not the greenest solution for anyone looking for ecowheels.  Recycling older vehicles that get mid 20's in MPG is greener than the pollution from production of new cars.  Which is why Prii (plural prius) are more about "looking" eco concious than actually being green.  Buy a USED Diesel Jetta and produce your own bio if you really want green.

Lobbying for public transit/bike access?

hate to be 'that guy', but in addition to surfing around for a new minivan, could you also lobby your local and state legislators to invest in public transit and bike lanes?

I know Los Angeles doesn't have the reputation of being the most pedestrian friendly city, but I hear your Bus system is actually pretty good. How about taking all of your passengers on the bus? It is definitely less convenient than shoving them on a minivan, but if they get used to transit at a young age, they are more likely to support it and use it as adults.... I know it worked for me.

www.campusprogress.org

Tow Vehicles

In retirement we are considering downsizing to live in a travel trailer.  Are there any really green vehicles that can tow 7000-8000 lbs and cost under $40,000.

Deuce Darts
Toyota Prius

In view of the recent and in my opinion inacurate praise of the much hailed (at least in California) Toyota Prius.  This following quite short and highly entertaining review from a very reputatble automotoring journalist is a must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YwxXBCeSh4

Toyota Prius

In view of the recent and in my opinion inacurate praise of the much hailed (at least in California) Toyota Prius.  This following quite short and highly entertaining review from a very reputatble automotoring journalist is a must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YwxXBCeSh4

Efficient Minivans

My 1999 Chrysler Minivan had a major tune-up last year (cost over $100) but is now getting 29 mpg on road trips where I control my speed to 55 mph.  I am getting 22 mpg in my stop-and-go city driving most of the time, but occasionally have a tankful where I only get 19 mpg in town; could be due to using the air conditioning this summer?

MrsMlgn
suv with fuel economy

I am super concerned about MPG.
I mostly drive a 93 honda civicVX which gets
50MPG most of the time.
My business requires that I have room to carry sound equipment to a gig so rather than buy a van that get 10 MPG I bought a 2001 toyota rav4 standard shift and front wheel drive only.
I bought it used so I lucked out.
I get 30 MPG and thats the truth.  When I'm not carrying equipment and I'm easy on the gas pedal I can get 34/35MPG.
It is a good compromise and a nice car
Bill

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