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			<description><![CDATA[ <p><em>The following is a guest essay from Jim Manzi,  CEO of <a href="http://www.predictivetechnologies.com/">Applied Predictive Technologies</a> (APT), an applied artificial intelligence software company. He writes occasionally for <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/"><em>National Review</em></a> and blogs at <a href="http://www.theamericanscene.com/">The American Scene</a>.</em></p>  <p>-----</p>  <p>Last week on this site Ryan Avent presented  a <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/12/4/12828/9858">thoughtful response</a>  to my <a href="http://theamericanscene.com/2007/11/30/why-i-oppose-a-carbon-tax">recent article at The American Scene</a> arguing against a carbon tax. Grist has graciously invited me to reply.</p>  <p>As I understand it,  Ryan had three basic criticisms of my logic:</p>  <ol>    <li> the impacts of global warming  will be more messy, unpredictable, and heartbreaking than I let on, </li>    <li> I don't  understand the economic trade-offs that make a carbon tax an elegant solution  to the problem, and </li>    <li> the technology-focused approach to the  problem  I propose is insufficiently conservative.  </li>    </ol>   <p>I'll try to address each of these in turn, all with a spirit of  open-minded inquiry.</p>  <p>The first objection highlights the fact that productive global  warming debates almost always hinge crucially upon predictions of the future. Consider three generic types of predictions: <em>deterministic</em> ("If I let go of this  pencil, it will fall"), <em>probabilistic</em> ("If I flip this coin, it has a 50% chance of coming up heads and a 50% chance  of coming up tails"), and <em>uncertain</em> predictions,  for which we can not specify a reliable distribution of probabilities ("There  will be a military coup in Pakistan in 2008").  Economists will immediately recognize the distinction between  probabilistic and uncertain forecasts as, in essence, <a href="http://www.econlib.org/LIBRARY/Knight/knRUP.html">Knight's classic  distinction</a> between risk and uncertainty.</p>  <p>Strictly speaking, all predictions are uncertain, but as a  practical matter we treat different predictions differently based on the  observed reliability of the relevant predictive rules used to generate them.</p>  <p>No serious person believes that even the physical science  projections for climate sensitivity (i.e., how many degrees hotter the world will  get if we increase atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration according to some emissions  scenario), never mind our predictions for how fast the world economy will grow or  the economic impact of various degrees of climate change, are  deterministic. This is why climate  modelers and integrated climate-economics modelers spend so much time  developing probability distributions for various outcomes and combining  possible outcomes via odds-weighting to develop expected outcomes. When we hear a modeling group say "the  expected outcome is X,&#34; it doesn't mean  they've assumed only the most  likely scenario will occur; it does mean, however,  they assume their  distribution of probabilities is correct (not being idiots, of course they constantly  work hard to try to test and improve this distribution of probabilities).</p>  <p>For the moment, let's assume that predictions of global  warming outcomes are probabilistic. I go  into all this in my posts and articles in much greater detail, but if we take  Nordhaus's <a href="http://www.econ.yale.edu/~nordhaus/homepage/dicemodels.htm">DICE</a> modeling group at Yale as a benchmark, we can make the  following observations about global warming:</p>  <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=grist.org&#038;blog=5104299&#038;post=20750&#038;subd=grist&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>

			
									<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p><em>The following is a guest essay from Jim Manzi,  CEO of <a href="http://www.predictivetechnologies.com/">Applied Predictive Technologies</a> (APT), an applied artificial intelligence software company. He writes occasionally for <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/"><em>National Review</em></a> and blogs at <a href="http://www.theamericanscene.com/">The American Scene</a>.</em></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Last week on this site Ryan Avent presented  a <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/article/lets-price-carbon">thoughtful response</a>  to my <a href="http://theamericanscene.com/2007/11/30/why-i-oppose-a-carbon-tax">recent article at The American Scene</a> arguing against a carbon tax. Grist has graciously invited me to reply.</p>
<p>As I understand it,  Ryan had three basic criticisms of my logic:</p>
<ol>
<li> the impacts of global warming  will be more messy, unpredictable, and heartbreaking than I let on, </li>
<li> I don&#8217;t  understand the economic trade-offs that make a carbon tax an elegant solution  to the problem, and </li>
<li> the technology-focused approach to the  problem  I propose is insufficiently conservative.  </li>
</ol>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to address each of these in turn, all with a spirit of  open-minded inquiry.</p>
<p>The first objection highlights the fact that productive global  warming debates almost always hinge crucially upon predictions of the future. Consider three generic types of predictions: <em>deterministic</em> (&#8220;If I let go of this  pencil, it will fall&#8221;), <em>probabilistic</em> (&#8220;If I flip this coin, it has a 50% chance of coming up heads and a 50% chance  of coming up tails&#8221;), and <em>uncertain</em> predictions,  for which we can not specify a reliable distribution of probabilities (&#8220;There  will be a military coup in Pakistan in 2008&#8243;).  Economists will immediately recognize the distinction between  probabilistic and uncertain forecasts as, in essence, <a href="http://www.econlib.org/LIBRARY/Knight/knRUP.html">Knight&#8217;s classic  distinction</a> between risk and uncertainty.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, all predictions are uncertain, but as a  practical matter we treat different predictions differently based on the  observed reliability of the relevant predictive rules used to generate them.</p>
<p>No serious person believes that even the physical science  projections for climate sensitivity (i.e., how many degrees hotter the world will  get if we increase atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration according to some emissions  scenario), never mind our predictions for how fast the world economy will grow or  the economic impact of various degrees of climate change, are  deterministic. This is why climate  modelers and integrated climate-economics modelers spend so much time  developing probability distributions for various outcomes and combining  possible outcomes via odds-weighting to develop expected outcomes. When we hear a modeling group say &#8220;the  expected outcome is X,&quot; it doesn&#8217;t mean  they&#8217;ve assumed only the most  likely scenario will occur; it does mean, however,  they assume their  distribution of probabilities is correct (not being idiots, of course they constantly  work hard to try to test and improve this distribution of probabilities).</p>
<p>For the moment, let&#8217;s assume that predictions of global  warming outcomes are probabilistic. I go  into all this in my posts and articles in much greater detail, but if we take  Nordhaus&#8217;s <a href="http://www.econ.yale.edu/~nordhaus/homepage/dicemodels.htm">DICE</a> modeling group at Yale as a benchmark, we can make the  following observations about global warming:</p>
<ul>
<li> The total costs of global warming are expected to be equal to about 1%  of present value of future human consumption.  </li>
<li>Even if we could implement a &#8220;perfect&#8221; global carbon tax that operates  optimally to reduce emissions at minimum cost, we should still just let about  75% of this warming damage happen, because it would be more expensive to prevent  it than simply suffer the damages. </li>
<li>The  net benefit of such a &#8220;perfect&#8221; carbon tax would be about 0.17% of present  value of future consumption.</li>
</ul>
<p>Think about  that: <strong>the total benefit available to the world economy from addressing global  warming is projected, at best, to improve present value of human consumption by  less than 0.2%</strong>. Now, not everything that  matters in life can be measured by money, but this is nothing like the rhetoric  of &#8220;New York  destroyed in a disaster&#8221; would suggest.  It makes it very hard to just wave away all of the efficiency costs that  would likely be imposed by an effort to force rapid conversion away from fossil  fuels.</p>
<p>Even this net benefit is unlikely to be achieved in the real  world. Think of what it would mean to  enact a harmonized global carbon tax (or some alternative regulatory scheme,  even less theoretically efficient than a carbon tax). You&#8217;d have to get, among others, the French National Assembly, the  Parliament of India, the Brazilian National Congress, the Chinese Politburo, and  Vladimir Putin to go along. What kind of  side-deals do you think would be required to get them to do this? Further, even if we got to an agreement de  jure, we would then have to enforce a set of global laws for many decades that  would run directly contrary to the narrow self-interest of most people  currently alive on the planet. How likely do you think a rural Chinese official  would be to enforce the rules on a local coal-fired power plant?</p>
<p>And this is just  on the international front, assuming the U.S. is on the side of the  angels. It doesn&#8217;t require complete  cynicism to observe that political coalitions are not entirely composed of  philosopher-kings debating the good of humanity. Trillions of dollars of assets  and millions of jobs will be threatened by pushing a huge portion of a  currently widely-distributed tax burden onto a subset of the economy. What do  you think the reactions of the good people of Wyoming, North Dakota, and Alaska  will be to the idea of paying for huge tax cuts for their beloved countrymen in  New York, California, and Florida? The senators for any 20 states can block most  legislation. In my original NR <a href="http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Game+plan:+what+conservatives+should+do+about+global+warming-a0164830927">article</a>, I described how, in a  presidential election, this dynamic would likely play out to punish harshly any  candidate foolish enough to propose such a tax.</p>
<p>What do you think  are the odds that the real, not theoretical, regime created by such a process  would produce global economic drag (i.e., politically-directed, inefficient  allocation of resources) that is greater than 0.17% of present value of  consumption?</p>
<p>Of course we can&#8217;t be certain that our probability distribution  of outcomes is correct. That is, we may  be facing uncertain, rather than merely probabilistic, predictions. I&#8217;ve written extensively about why, in fact,  we should take such concerns seriously in the case of global warming. There is some chance &#8212; by definition  non-quantified, since if we could quantify it, it would be incorporated into our  probability distribution &#8212; of catastrophic climate impacts well beyond the distribution  of possibilities contemplated by consensus models. <strong>It is insuring against such an outside chance  that is the most valid justification for potential large-scale global warming  interventions.</strong></p>
<p>I think that intellectually serious advocates of rapid,  aggressive abatement of carbon emissions (via whatever regulatory, tax, or other  means) need to confront this reality. If  we are taking action to prevent an outcome that is not predicted either in a  deterministic or probabilistic way, but is an unquantifiable risk of something  that might go horribly wrong, how do we compare it to costs and other risks in  order to price it? Simply pounding the  table and saying that humanity is imperiled isn&#8217;t very convincing outside of  your own choir loft.</p>
<p>This is not an academic concern. If  we introduced a tax high enough to keep atmospheric carbon concentration to no  more than 1.5X its current level (assuming we could get the whole world to go  along and implement a perfect tax), we would <a href="http://grist.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dice_mss_091107_public.pdf">expect</a> (PDF) to spend about $17 trillion more  than the benefits  we would achieve. That&#8217;s a heck of an insurance premium  &#8212; something like one-quarter of the world&#8217;s total annual output &#8212; for an event  that it is literally outside of a probability distribution. Of course, I can  find scientists who say that level of atmospheric carbon dioxide is too  dangerous. Al Gore has a more aggressive proposal that if implemented through a  perfect carbon tax would be expected to cost more like $23 trillion in excess of  benefits. Of course, this wouldn&#8217;t eliminate all uncertainty, and I can find  scientists who say we need to reduce emissions even faster. <strong>Once we leave the  world of odds and handicapping and enter the world of the Precautionary  Principle, there is really no principled stopping point.</strong> We would be chasing an  endlessly receding horizon of zero risk.  Is your answer that you just &#8220;know&#8221; the right practical amount of risk  to take?</p>
<p>The same basic  point can be made by noting that there is nothing magic about global warming that  should lead us to privilege its costs over all the other bad things that might  happen to us. We face lots of  other unquantifiable threats of at least comparable realism and severity. A regional nuclear war in Central Asia, a  global pandemic triggered by a modified version of the HIV virus, or a rogue  state weaponizing genetic engineering technology all come immediately to  mind. Any of these could kill hundreds  of millions of people. Is your answer  that you just &#8220;know&#8221; how seriously to take each of these risks, and you just  &#8220;know&#8221; that global warming risks, beyond those specified in consensus modeling  distributions, are more serious than these other risks?</p>
<p>Now, a reasonable response to this is,  &#8220;Addressing global warming doesn&#8217;t mean that I can&#8217;t also work out smart  security arrangements in Asia, invest in  biological science, and contain rogue regimes and so on.&#8221; This is true, but each of these things cost  money (or economically equivalently, imposes efficiency costs). I don&#8217;t have to make this list very long  before I start to eat up the bulk of GDP.  In a world of finite resources, a responsible advocate must have some  integrated framework for weighing relative risks and opportunities.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be clear about my conceptual framework: <strong>in the face of  massive uncertainty on multiple fronts, the best strategy is almost always to  hedge your bets and keep your options open</strong>.  Wealth and technology are raw materials for options. Because it is easy to predict the future, but  extremely hard to predict the future <em>correctly</em>,  we should avoid irrevocable commitment to any course of action until as long as  it seems possible (not just for global warming, but in general). Adding a large tax burden to the economy is  very difficult to reverse, and holds large regrets (just as under-estimating  the severity of global warming would). The  loss of economic and technological development that would be required to  eliminate literally all theorized climate change risk would cripple our ability  to deal with virtually every other foreseeable and unforeseeable risk, not to  mention our ability to lead productive and interesting lives in the  meantime. It&#8217;s possible to buy so much  flood insurance that you can&#8217;t afford fire insurance.</p>
<p><strong>Rapid, aggressive emissions abatement is not economically justified  by probability-weighted consensus forecasts of the distribution of modeled global  warming impacts.</strong> Advocates for this  policy need to do a better job than they have to date explaining how we justify  an enormous loss of consumption in return for chasing this one uncertainty in a  world of troubles.</p>
<p>Ryan raises a very smart objection to my analysis of costs  vs. benefits of a carbon tax, which I think I could paraphrase as, &#8220;Since we have  to tax something, why not tax something we want less of. If we offset the carbon tax with other tax  reductions, why don&#8217;t I get a free lunch?&#8221;  I&#8217;ve written another article at The American Scene (&#8220;<a href="http://www.theamericanscene.com/2007/12/05/coase-club">Coase Club</a>&#8220;) about  why I think this is a seductive fallacy, so I won&#8217;t repeat all the arguments  here. I&#8217;ll just make two points that are  described at greater length in that article.</p>
<p>First, as I&#8217;ve already touched on this response, <strong>the actual  carbon tax that a real government passes is very unlikely to be nearly as  efficient as the tax swap envisioned by an academic economist</strong>.</p>
<p>Second, <strong>there is an unending set  of externalities created by all energy sources, and there is no logical reason  to privilege AGW-related costs over any others</strong>. If I  die in an AGW-caused flood or I die from cancer caused  by inhaling the fumes from somebody else&#8217;s car, I am in both cases equally  dead. I reference research in Coase Club  showing that we can&#8217;t measure the external costs (including AGW  plus everything else) of carbon and non-carbon-intensive fuels within an order  of magnitude, and the range of total external cost estimates overlap between  every energy source. How can we set an  initial price rationally and then engage in trial-and-error learning? How will  we know whether we have decreased or increased total external costs once we have  shifted X units of production, say, from LNG to  biomass? In practice, prices would be  set entirely politically, via interest group bargaining.</p>
<p>To the third objection &#8212; that my proposals show that I am not a  true conservative &#8212; I can only say: get in line. I doubt  anybody reading this post also  listens to Rush Limbaugh (I don&#8217;t either), but I can tell you from experience  that it was no fun when the guy basically <a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_062907/content/01125114.guest.html">called me an idiot</a> in front of his  audience of 14 million dedicated fans.  Our good friends at FoxNews, naturally enough, piled on, along with many  bloggers who adorn their homepages with pictures of assault rifles.</p>
<p><strong>I take seriously the possibility that global climate change  could become severe.</strong> In that  eventuality, we would want to have done the long lead-time work to enable us to  deploy technology to blunt or eliminate the problems it would create. That is why I favor a technology-investment  program. It seems to me that, here at  Grist, &#8220;insufficiently conservative&#8221; would be more in the spirit of a  compliment than a criticism. If the  charge is trying to think for myself, I plead guilty.</p>
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