I’ve got an interview over at Salon with Charles Clover, a British journalist who has been covering the oceans for 20 years and has a book out, End of the Line.

Among his more startling revelations: that McDonald’s fish sandwich is more sustainable than Nobu’s menu (the restaurant for the stars), because it is sourced from an Alaskan fishery certified by the Marine Stewardship Council. McDonald’s, though, does not advertise the MSC label because then it would have to pay a licensing fee.