If a bike gets stolen in the middle of New York City, does it make it a sound?

With his own bike, a bunch of doomed locks, and a variety of tools, Casey Neistat (who you may remember from this video) proves that nope, it basically doesn’t.

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The film above is a 2005 version of this experiment. On a busy Tuesday, at well-trafficked locations like Union Square, Astor Place, and 14th Street, Casey and brother Van steal their own bike using a bolt cutter, hack saw, power tools, and a hammer and spike. They act as suspicious as possible. Sometimes, passersby turn their heads and watch. But no one bothers the “thief.”

Neistat recently replicated the experiment for the New York Times. (We can’t share the video with you here because we are not content thieves. Even fake ones. So click through!) In this one, he locks his bike outside of the Ninth Precinct and steals it. He has his friend Malik steal the bike. (“I’m black!” Malik notes.) And finally — FINALLY — when Neistat tries to steal his bike from a Union Square subway stop using a power saw, the police intervene.