On Saturday, I appeared on MSNBC’s “Up With Chris Hayes,” on an episode entirely devoted to energy. (Yes, Virginia, Santa Claus is real.) There were three long segments over the course of the two-hour show: one on fracking, one on the explosion of fossil fuel production in the U.S. (“Saudi America”), and one on renewables. I was on the first and third.

Here’s the fracking discussion, broken into three pieces:

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(Not for the first time, I wonder, why is Chris the only person in the media saying these things?)

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(Also not for the first time, I wonder, why can’t I seem to persuade anyone to call me “David”?)

Here’s the second bit:

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And here’s the third bit:

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Next, check out the renewables segment.