Dylan Hitchcock-Lopez was raised “on a fishing boat” in Sitka, Alaska, but ended up leaving to study philosophy at St. John’s College in Santa Fe. Now that he’s returned to his hometown to help out as a broker for his family’s fishing business, which plays a part in Alaska’s $4.6 billion commercial fishing industry, the connection between these two seemingly incompatible spheres of his life has become clearer to him.

“I could be a bit of an advocate for the fishermen up here, who didn’t have the luxury of really being able to connect with people in other places, and I could be kind of a go between,” says Hitchcock. “And frankly, I enjoy that more than I enjoy fishing. I like to be able to pause a little bit and think about it and talk about it … I think that issues like climate change and sustainability and food security are really important, and that thinking about what we eat and getting more philosophical about it is an important part of daily life.”

After a thoughtful interview with Hitchcock-Lopez, I wondered: Can philosophical thinking indeed help the fishing industry prepare for — and fight against — warming waters? And what would a friendly chat between Friedrich Nietzsche and Hitchcock-Lopez look like, anyway? Here’s an edited and condensed version of what the philosofisherman had to say — and what we imagine Nietzsche might add:

On how consumer awareness can change our seafood:

Hitchcock-Lopez: People just really seem to pay attention to the price tag, and I think that’s really what needs to change. I think [we need] a little more awareness about consuming less seafood, consuming domestic seafood, and [that] the foreign options are, by and large, really not that great. If the consumer becomes interested in climate change, then the fishermen will adapt as well. But when they’re being out-competed by the global fish market — aquaculture and fish farms in China and Chile and Norway — then they’re going to have a hard time thinking about something like climate change when the consumer doesn’t seem to demand any awareness.